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buibui
dairy08sum@yahoo.com.sg
20/08/2010 08:49:27
Re: threaten employees to resign

hi,
my company have been threaten me to resign from the following company. I have just done a mistake which helping my colleagues to punch card. however, company have been threaten me that they will issue a letter this coming monday and asked me to resign before Monday so that i wont get the letter. However the other colleague that helped others punch card asked them does there have a such matters, they said does not. They told me that they will take action towards those 3 employees that helped others to punch card. however they does not. they just come to me asked me to meet admin and admin threaten me that if i not resign before friday they will issue a letter for me that is not good to me. but however, i just make a punch card mistake. no others.
how should i do?
thanks :)
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KL Siew
pesaraonline@gmail.com
20/08/2010 11:22:52
Just let them know that you are not going to resign.
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buibui
dairy08sum@yahoo.com.sg
20/08/2010 11:50:49
they should issue same letter for three of us not just a person right? cus my friend she just got passed her exam for licensed company not dare to treated her anything yet. if company doing unfair to me? how?
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KL Siew
20/08/2010 12:33:33
It is up to the company to decide who is to be given the letter. Anyway, punching card for others is a serious offence, should never do it again.
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Vivian
lksoong@gmail.com
20/08/2010 13:47:19
First, punch card for others is a misconduct. What disciplinary action to be taken depends on the company's policy. Even they want to terminate you, they can't just give you a termination letter and ask you to go. There is due process to follow, i.e., show cause, domestic inquiry, etc to give you a fair chance to defend yourself.

If they didnt do that and terminate you, you can report to Industrial Relation Office and ask for reinstatement/compensation.

However, if the company confirmed that you are guilty and decide to terminate your service...(helping other to punch card could be perceived as integrity issue, which is quite serious), they have the right to do so.

BUT, they can't terminate you alone but to keep the others who involved in teh same misconduct. Have to follow the same process. Else you could again report to IR Office for unfair HR treatment.
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buibui
dairy08sum@yahoo.com.sg
20/08/2010 14:05:12
thanks for KL Siew & Vivian for your reply and taught me a lesson. Thanks :)
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Mohd. Hanifah Sultan
mhs@mtcasean.com
23/08/2010 13:53:51
To punch another's card other than own can be also interpreted as fraud. Fraud is a criminal misconduct and is punishable by immediate termination. Even if due process takes place, the final decision will be termination. The reason the company is asking you to resign is to avoid the hassle of due process. On the other hand, if you resign, this incident will not recorded in your personal file.
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buibui
dairy08sum@yahoo.com.sg
24/08/2010 11:53:59
if they wanna terminate me. then the other that punch card also will be terminated right?
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KL Siew
24/08/2010 17:12:54
We wouldn't know how they would decide.
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